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Sushin
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Last Logged In: April 2nd, 2009
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Information Removal by Sushin

January 11th, 2008 2:49 PM

INSTRUCTIONS: Remove information from a place that has suffers from an overabundance information.

I decided my school text book had far too much information in it, and removed a page.

Then I skewered the page with my trusty pen.

+ larger

A Science Textbook
Cell Membranes...
I'm such a bad boy.
Revenge....Justice.

6 vote(s)



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32 comment(s)

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posted by High Countess Emily on January 11th, 2008 3:23 PM

I sympathy about the gym class!

Heheh..
posted by Sushin on January 11th, 2008 3:52 PM

I don't participate in gym class anyway.
But I do get graded for it...not in a good way though.

Torch Textbooks
posted by Dead Sexy on January 11th, 2008 4:49 PM

BAH Overloaded with information... useless !
Burn em all !

^_^
DS

Unvote
posted by susy derkins on January 11th, 2008 6:28 PM

No-way-vote.
Watching a book being hurt gratuituosly is almost physically painful, cell membranes are anything but useless and your interpretation is anything but creative.

Please...
posted by Sushin on January 11th, 2008 8:22 PM

This is a seventh grade book. They don't even go over cell membranes and such in 7th grade, and if I did, I would have reviewed it in 10th grade biology, rendering this page completely useless to seventh graders...in my school anyway.
I put the page back in afterwards anyway.
But most importantly, I completed the task. Removing information from a place that suffers with an (over)abundance of information. Weather it was useless or not is an opinion.
Additionally...if you have a computer with an internet connection, all books are nigh useless.

So take that.

Dear Foe,
posted by susy derkins on January 11th, 2008 9:00 PM

They don't even go over cell membranes and such in 7th grade, and if I did, I would have reviewed it in 10th grade biology, rendering this page completely useless to seventh graders...in my school anyway.


Mmm, I think I do have a computer with an internet connection, so I guess I should take something. If only I knew what.

I know what
posted by Sushin on January 11th, 2008 9:32 PM

How about you go find yourself some rationality and better judgment.

I.E. - Not acting like displacing a piece of paper is a crime against science.
Or that paper is a living thing for that matter.

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posted by Lincøln on January 11th, 2008 10:24 PM

Sorry, but I agree with Derkins.
I see what you tried to do, but I think you failed. Your heart was in the right place, but reading this made me think of this the whole time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4_j4c7Bop0

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posted by Sushin on January 11th, 2008 11:49 PM

You're nuts.
I didn't destroy anything.
I put the page back in the book.
I own the book.
It hasnt been opened in 3 years at least.
It wont be opened again by me. (As I have a more update version)

There's something wrong with you guys.

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posted by Sola of Mars on January 12th, 2008 12:00 AM

My opinion of the treatment of the book aside; you say so yourself that you replaced the page. In the end, no information was removed.

At least tell us about the information you removed, and why it was better off being removed.

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posted by Lincøln on January 12th, 2008 12:05 AM

Hey, I'm just trying to give some constructive criticism.
I'm telling you what I thought.
How I was hit when I was reading it.
I know the book wasn't really damaged and you didn't burn it, but the thought that there is information that isn't worth learning is a little naïve and I don't agree with the spirit of it.
Notice I'm not flagging your task, because you did the task as it was asked of you, but I'm explaining why you don't get a vote.
Learn from this or don't.

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posted by Dr. Subtle on January 12th, 2008 12:33 AM

I agree- my inner bibliophile is horrified, but my inner Avant Garde Artiste is OK with it, kind of.

Well, he's gonna go have some strong drinks with the bibliophile and pass out in a gutter.

But by tomorrow he should be OK.

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posted by JTony Loves Brains on January 12th, 2008 12:53 AM

Hey Sushin, I'm going to jump in here because I'm half asleep and don't know any better, and I hate to see friction and annoyance where it isn't necessary.

The comments section is a place for folks to discuss the success or failure of a task. It is a place for debate and opinion, and people will state their opinions strongly, but usually with the understanding that there is mutual respect pre-reserved between player and commenter.

If someone doesn't think the requirements of a task have been met, they will flag the task. If someone doesn't feel a properly executed task speaks to them, they'll withhold their vote and will often comment as to why. This is where the comments can get pointed, but they aren't meant to be hurtful. They are meant to continue to raise the bar on completions, promoting more and more epic praxis, encouraging new and old players alike to greater tasking.

It is up to the player to learn from the comments. Your choice is to respond to the comments by arguing defensively, possibly resorting to insult or snyde remarks, or to use the argument to extend the praxis and make your completion more epic in the comments.

In your case, you've chosen the former, and that lessens your completion. Instead I recommend that you step back and think about, in the greater and more creative scheme of things, how you might convince your critics how important it is to remove information from that textbook. You might not convince them you are right, but you might convince them that your praxis is worth a vote. It is a whole lot more creative than saying something is "wrong" with your critics, and it is a whole lot more fun.

After all, isn't that what is most important about SF0? Take a step back, take a breath, and figure out how to explain to Susie and Lincoln (and others) why that damn page is so evil, and then really remove it (make a paper airplain, an origami rose, or even use it to light a camp fire and explain how that is a better use). And, if you can't back it up with reality, make it up and make up facts to support it. Flair and creativity is more important in this game than truth and honesty.

I'm saying all this because I see you as an inspired new player... one willing to stand up for yourself in the face of heavy criticism and I can see that energy channeled into epic tasking and I think you could do truly amazing things.

Good luck, and welcome to the game.

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posted by Dr. Subtle on January 12th, 2008 1:06 AM

I think both my inner friends need to go have a drink with JTony.

Well said.

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posted by Lincøln on January 12th, 2008 1:19 AM

Seconded.
Sushin has potential to be a really good tasker.
And I'm excited to see what he does now that he's foed me. The only other foes I've had are sock puppets and The Revolutionary. This is the first one who means it. I can't wait to see how this plays out.

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posted by GYØ Ben on January 12th, 2008 1:42 AM

Thirded.

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posted by Sushin on January 12th, 2008 7:08 AM

I believe this is one of the most controversial tasks of SF0 history. (Sarcasm (I hope))

And even though i replaced that page, I completed the task. I don't think it matters really, the papers not attached to the book and I have evidence that its removed, and actually I put the page back after I submitted the evidence.

Kay,
posted by Sushin on January 12th, 2008 7:46 AM

I added a third image along with a novel.
Please understand my sense of humor.

Destruction is as much art as creation
posted by JTony Loves Brains on January 12th, 2008 11:03 AM

Nice addition to the task. I remember lugging around so many of those kinds of books and the tyranny of the information they contained. As a bibliophile, I used to be horrified at the injury of books as well, but in this age where books are so easily obtained, and where the contents of textbooks in particular have become more political than educational, I am much less queasy at the thought of seeing a few mitochondrial descriptions erased from a few volumes.

Always remember, you critics here can be your best friends and can make a simple task into something that really alters your life. It's all how you use the information. Cheers!

Yes
posted by Sushin on January 12th, 2008 11:24 AM

I think i speak for all students and former students alike when i say: "What's learned in school, stays in school."

If you think about it, you really are going to forget a large chuck of what you've been taught, no matter how hard you try to remember.
Thats why there are shows like "Are you smarter than a fifth grader?"

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posted by susy derkins on January 12th, 2008 11:43 AM

Bullets to the executioner. Now you´re talking.
Vote of respect for standing up to the fire, mein foe. You turned the tide.
Bless the patient mentors that this place sprouts (JTony, sir!).

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posted by Sushin on January 12th, 2008 11:46 AM

=)

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posted by miss understanding on January 12th, 2008 12:24 PM

Most people will forget the "information" they learned, but I would argue that the training that happens in schools (especially public) stays with us forever.

Yeah...
posted by Sushin on January 12th, 2008 12:39 PM

I agree.
Theres a lot of interesting or important things that people end up remembering all the time (especially experiences), its just that the majority of information is lost before you're even done with school.

And you don't only learn information, but you learn how to learn information, and how to be creative and all that other good stuff.
Training, like you said, I suppose...weather it's intended or not.

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posted by Sola of Mars on January 12th, 2008 12:48 PM

I'm with Ms. Derkins. "Bullets to the executioner" is a pretty great bit of something there.

I'm glad we didn't chase you off.

Bienvenidos a el dulce reto. Bienvenidos a la nueva jornada.

Chase me off?
posted by Sushin on January 12th, 2008 1:14 PM

I think drama is one of the best parts of things like this. I probably would have enjoyed this even if it didn't end well.

Not that I like arguing, but I guess I just don't get into many arguments like this. It's always nice to have opposition.

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posted by EarthMaiden on January 12th, 2008 2:33 PM

Go SUSHIN!

You did wonderfully in responding to these people...

opinions are like bum-holes...

XD

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posted by JTony Loves Brains on January 12th, 2008 3:05 PM

@Earthmaiden:

opinions are like bum-holes...


Can you finish that saying? I'm just wondering what you mean, because there are a number of endings, which may mean different things.
"they're both necessary in an argument"
"they both stink up a perfectly good bathroom"
"they both have "o's" in them"
"and facts are like earlobes"

Please clarify, EarthMaiden.

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posted by anna one on January 12th, 2008 4:02 PM

JTony:
You're awesome.

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posted by Tøm on January 12th, 2008 4:09 PM

"...Everyone has one, and they all stink."

I think.

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posted by EarthMaiden on January 12th, 2008 5:21 PM

Opinions are like bum-holes...

EVERYBODY HAS ONE xD

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posted by Sushin on January 12th, 2008 6:32 PM

If thats the case, you could say that opinions are like eyes or ears or noses too...