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Secret Cello
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Graph of Desire by Secret Cello

January 18th, 2008 8:51 AM

INSTRUCTIONS: Generate a graph of your desires.

I've dated a lot of girls (130 +/- 10 is the latest guess) and have dated almost exclusively through the Internet.  At first, this was just the only feasible way of getting over the trauma of an all-boys Catholic high school (What? You mean you can just go up and talk to girls?), but in the end, I grew to love it enough (or suffered from enough cognitive dissonance), that I fully embraced online dating: you get to search for the people and characteristics that interest you. That OKCupid was developed by a bunch of Harvard math geeks and includes statistical confidence intervals makes it my kind of place.

So, this spun back to the question: who did I really want? Obviously, the solution was in charts and graphs. So I've drawn the following graph for lots of people, for current girlfriends, for ex-es, for pillowtalk, for friends. It's ridiculous, but it contains a little kernel of truth*.

* = (p < .05)

It's also changed over time as I've drawn it on bar napkins and index cards, so here's my best recollection of how it evolved:

The initial graph, circa age 20.

Graph 1 

Intellectualness on one side (which really means, how awesome and thought-provoking are our conversations), and shared activities on the other.

The scales are logarithmic: 0 represents complete hate, 2 neutrality, and 10 complete awesomeness.



Post college, and post my first big relationship fizzling out, I dated a lot. In the words of Dan Savage, I "discovered that there were three billion people of the opposite gender out there", and so my pickiness went up.



I also learned this lesson, which probably  you had already figured I was leaving out:



I moved to New York 4 years ago, and added this shortly there after:



Today, the graph looks like so:



First, I found out that as much as the numbers crunched out right, all activities and no thought made for a dull dull time. It's interesting that I'm still considering the "sacrifice everything you do for someone with whom with you have great conversations."

I also found out that I like kids like I like dogs: they are absolutely fantastic for your best friends to have. (The star means: open-to-adoption-maybe-kinda-sorta-check-back-in-five-years)

Does it represent all the nuances of who I like and what people tend to like me? Not really, but even after DEEP THOUGHTS on the matter, I still realize that when I look over profiles, this little graph just keeps on evaluating in my head and spitting out results: "Message Now! Pass! Save for later!"

PS: +1 point for red hair

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First version: almost linear, x^1.5 + y^1.5 = 12 roughly Solutions: (7,0), (4.5,4.5), (0.7)


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Second version: graph is now curved, something like: x^3 + y^3 >= 512 Solutions (approximate): (8,0), (6.5,6.5), (0,8)


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Same curve, but now realizing that attraction matters. Shocking! Solutions: (8,0) , (6.5,6.5) , (0,8)


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Quality demanded has gone up, as well as how inelastic the graph is at high values. Solutions: (9.5,0), (8,8), (0,9.5)


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Now, we asymptote before reaching the X axis, and intellectualness grows in importance. Solutions: (3,10), (8,8), (9,0)



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posted by Lizard Boy on January 18th, 2008 9:18 AM

I'm assuming that curve is "anyone to the right of this is dateable"?

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posted by Secret Cello on January 18th, 2008 9:22 AM

Yeah, that's the idea. Of course, for most people, you don't really know exactly where they fall (especially before a first date), so you just take your best guess, your margin of error, and hope for the best.

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posted by Lincøln on January 18th, 2008 9:36 AM

I like how long you've been keeping the graphing going.
I would have thought it would have evolved a lot more over the years. But I guess you know what you want.

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posted by Spidere on January 18th, 2008 12:29 PM

I like isoquants.

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posted by rongo rongo on January 18th, 2008 6:25 PM

A friend of mine has a powerpoint lecture on what he calls the high-throughput method of dating.

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posted by susy derkins on January 18th, 2008 6:33 PM

Why a logarithmic axis?

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posted by Secret Cello on January 18th, 2008 7:51 PM

spidere: Isoquants! I had thought of these as indifference curves, mainly because it's my demand curve, not the production (!) of women.

susy: The idea is that each increasing number is exponentially more unlikely: somebody who's a 10 is just someone who that our intellectual minds are just perfectly matched. To put it another way, I've never met a 10 on either scale. For a long time, I believed that meeting a 10 even with complete antipathy on the other scale, would be enough, so those people would have to be very rare.

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posted by Lincøln on January 18th, 2008 8:24 PM

I once met a ten on both scales and it blew my mind. I had no idea how to comprehend it. I had no idea how to proceed. It kinda sucks, because when you find that ten, they also find you a ten (I think it cannot work any other way), and two people with such mind blowing new experiences to deal with find it hard to function properly.

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posted by Levitating Potato on January 18th, 2008 8:54 PM

We studied the problem of selecting a mate in Discrete Mathematics. Suppose a dating pool of size n, and you wish to maximize your chances of selecting the best member of that pool. Further suppose that the order you review candidates is effectively random, and that you can't change your mind after making a decision.

From those constraints, there is in fact an optimal strategy. As our professor put it, he used said strategy, and it worked for him, and his wife didn't, and so it didn't work for her...

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posted by Secret Cello on January 18th, 2008 9:32 PM

Ha! I know that strategy too: rank order them as they come in, ignore the first 1/e percent (roughly 37%), and then take the first one after who is your best so far.

This is probably not good dating advice, although lots of people take a far looser version, which is that there is a strong urge (and societal pressure), to settle down at a certain age, and a lot of that pressure is because the assumption that the dating pool dries up around the early 30s (which I think is kind of a wrong assumption, but whatever).

However, this formula is fantastic for finding apartments. Take an n which is the number of apartments you think you have the tolerance to look at (say 15). Look at then n/e (~5) of them without any chance of renting to get a feel for the market, and then take the first one after that that's the best.

Does you ad now says "ugly, crazy, mom-types need not apply"?
posted by susy derkins on January 18th, 2008 9:33 PM

So, a n of 130 for the intersection of not crazy, physically attractive and does not want kids?
+1 point for red hair, in either direction?
This is so adorkable

indifference curves!
posted by Spidere on January 24th, 2008 10:00 AM

Yes. That is totally what I meant. :) Sorry about that.

I lose.