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Designated Group Membership or Basis of Disadvantage by Magpie

January 3rd, 2008 6:34 PM

INSTRUCTIONS: State personal experiences of substantial and chronic social disadvantage in American society, not in other countries.

I am a Lesbian, or as I used to say when I was a homophobic youth, a "les-be-friend."
Why am I at a disadvantage in America as opposed to other countries?
BECAUSE I CAN'T GET MARRIED
Now I have already been in a heterosexual marriage, and been divorced so I have gone through some of the hoops that one has to clear to become a married person in these here united states. Basically it went like this:
Some sort of ceremony with an officiant.
Sign paper
Send paper in
Done (Change name if you like, might have had to have a blood test)

After that, depending on which state you live in, you have hundreds of rights automatically, some of which are:
you are entitled to 50% of everything your spouse has, including debt mind you. You are considered next of kin with out question. Families have to accept you, to some degree. The federal government, state government and all foreign countries have to acknowledge your union as valid. You can adopt children and can have a fair chance of getting custody.

As a homo:
Full marriage is presently available to same-sex couples in seven jurisdictions. The Netherlands was the first country to allow same-sex marriage in 2001. Same-sex marriages are also recognized in Belgium, Canada, South Africa, Spain, and the U.S. state of Massachusetts
Rhode Island and New Mexico residents are also permitted to marry in Massachusetts, for same-sex marriages performed within Massachusetts
Canada and Spain are the only countries where the legal status of same-sex marriage is exactly the same as that of opposite-sex marriage, though South Africa is due to fully harmonize its marriage laws. Other nations all have residency requirements that apply to same-sex marriage that do not apply to opposite-sex marriage.

Civil partnership, domestic partnerships, Unregistered partnership or registered partnerships offer varying amounts of the benefits of marriage and are available in: Andorra, Colombia, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary (unregisterd co-habitation since 1996; registered partnership from 1/1/09), Iceland, Israel, Luxembourg, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Slovenia, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom. They are also available in some parts of Argentina, Brazil (Rio Grande do Sul), Mexico, the U.S. states of California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Oregon (delays), Vermont, Washington state, and the District of Columbia (Washington, D.C.) and Uruguay.
In the United Kingdom, civil partnerships have identical legal status to a marriage, and partners gain all the same benefits and associated legal rights; ranging from tax exemptions and joint property rights, to next-of-kin status and shared parenting responsibilities. Partnership ceremonies are performed by a marriage registrar in exactly the same manner as a secular civil marriage. Civil unions in New Zealand are identical to British civil partnerships in their association with equivalent spousal rights and responsibilities to fully-fledged heterosexual marriage. (Taken from Wikipedia)

If domestic partnership or civil unions are not available in your country or state, you can go through legal processes in order to get some of the rights that heterosexual married couples can get. But it's very expensive and still does not convey all the rights. Also there is a risk that your children might be taken from you in some states.

Hmm. I live in California (very liberal state), am a citizen of 2 countries (Uk, US) and I can still NOT GET MARRIED if I wanted to ( although not right now, thanks)

Kind of sucks






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posted by Hemingway Kat on January 3rd, 2008 9:04 PM

Also there is a risk that your children might be taken from you in some states.

Really? Like, by the state?? What the hell???? That's probably the scariest thing I've ever heard...

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posted by help im a bear on January 3rd, 2008 10:41 PM

i am curious how les-be-friend is a slur or insult

it sounds nice, "let's be friends!"

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posted by Charlie Fish on January 4th, 2008 1:57 AM

Hey, you're UK/US dual nationality as well! Me too!

I have two lesbian friends who are now "married"/civil-partnershipped (to two other people). I don't get the impression that they are disadvantaged or troubled at all; I guess it's accepted now in the UK. One of the couples even has kids (from previous marriage).

But, well, USA is a backward country, ain't it?

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posted by Meta tron on January 4th, 2008 3:36 AM

wait, wait, wait... There are tax exemptions?! Why did nobody tell me? I knew I shoulda married that guy whose visa expired. Damn too late.

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posted by Burn Unit on January 4th, 2008 7:56 AM

Yes. There's over 1000 legal/tax benefits of marriage. Someone wrote a book about it, but I can't recall who.

You should move...
posted by Frostbeard on January 8th, 2008 11:34 PM

...to Massachusetts. Our state rocks! The whole "sanctity of marriage" crap is sooo puritanical early america.

"Marriage is a fine institution - but I'm not ready for an institution." - Mae West

Fuck em.

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posted by Tricia Tanaka on March 1st, 2008 9:20 AM

This should me Shplank'd
Nice praxis!

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posted by Blue on March 25th, 2008 5:01 PM

I read all your comments and write ups with an accent now.

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posted by Magpie on March 25th, 2008 5:45 PM

Good, I hope that you pronounce things the right way. If not, it's more cheesecake for you.

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posted by Minch on March 25th, 2008 6:45 PM

Magpie, I am an official officiant (no seriously, I married my best friends in Austin)... if and when you want to get married, I will proudly perform your ceremony and bless it with all the power of blessings I carry around within me.

I know, it doesn't change the crappy legality of it all....

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posted by Magpie on March 25th, 2008 7:57 PM

Ah, thanks Minch, although being unattached at the moment enables me to do so many things like tasking and such.

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posted by Ben Yamiin on July 22nd, 2008 5:14 PM

--PRAXIS EXPIRED--

Prop H8
posted by Waldo Cheerio on March 4th, 2009 11:47 PM

Bum dum dummmmmmm! *Lightning Flash*

I am ashamed to be a Californian lately. A democracy has never stripped a minority of fundamental human rights before; what the hell guys?

P.S. BwaY: did you coincidentally post your comment on the date when the phrase "'eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry" was challenged as inflammatory language that would persuade voters to vote against Prop 8? That did seem like a coffin nail in the movement, so I assume your expiration was either in response to the Supreme Court finding of fundamental right to marry, or what seemed to be a death blow to the amendment action.