Events / Epic Pretired Craziness...a task to be chossen soon....real soon...I sware
When:March 23rd, 2008 @ 2:00pm
Where:
Delores park
Delores park, SF
Enrollment
8/unlimited
Organizer:
Kyle Hamilton
Description:
Epic Pretired Craziness...
I Kyle Hamilton have decided to grace epic sf0 with my epic presence.
To celebrate said epicness I will be having a pretired task competition.
Vote for your favorite pretired tasks by commenting them below (Please include task name | description and a link to the original pretired task.) the 4 most loved or most epic at my discretion tasks will be chosen and people will compete in task form at the Top of delores park on Sunday the 23rd at 2'oclock
Responses
8 Attending
6 NOT Attending
Terms
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I second the vote for Punch God for Cheesecake.
And it's good to see you back Loki!
Ok well then I propose…
Dance For Kyle Hamilton
Or you know what… too many good tasks to choose from… hold on!
Okay here… We should totally Swede Moskau!
Partial list of pretired Kyle Hamilton Tasks!
musical chairs+cake. Seems like a good group event. I'll even supply the cake, although I won't bake it myself, they never turn out quite right.
I LOVE that this event is on a day that I'm not actually working! Kyle, my couch is at the ready if you are looking for a place to lay your head! Can't wait to see you!
Nothing said it had to be a Kyle task
Although PGFC is the best task ever.
Release wild Gnomes around the city
Wouldn't it look dashing to have a Gnome-covered Dolores Park???
I am super glad that I have the opportunity to meet some more SF0 crazies and hang out with you folks I have already met. Tasking knickers are at the ready.
I really want to do this . Sparbaco...you know the dance I would like to do. It will annoy the fuck out of everyone. Muhahahahah
:( I so want to come, but alas, it does not seem to be in the cards for me.... this time.
Kyle, next time, I am all over your visit like white on rice... or should I say paint on flesh.
I propose…
Public Jello Wrestling
Set up a Jello wrestling ring in a public area, attempt to get members of the public to wrestle with you in said ring. There should be some sort of prize for the winner.
You can order bulk Jello from JelloWrestling.com
If you do Punch God For Cheesecake, do you reckon it'll count as a completion of this task?
So. . . any word on which tasks we're going to attempt?
Or, I suppose, we can just show up with a list of favorites and wing it.
"a task to be chossen soon....real soon...I sware"
Wow, that's kind've illiterate.
You might wanna chill with all the pretentious Derrida and Foucault quoting and the Magritte references. I'm afraid you may be confusing each other.
It's Dolores Park, BTW. Like Spanish.
Have fun, I guess.
*shakes head*
Kyle what would the world do with out your ridiculousness?
o my god you figured out how to use SFZero....i'm so proud of you
"Kyle what would the world do with out your ridiculousness?"
A question I don't even want to contemplate.
Don't forget that it's Easter Sunday in the Mission District, whose southern portion still has some Latino Catholic communities. Try to be a little sensitive in the blasphemy department ....
Punching God in Dolores Park on Easter Sunday would be ...tacky .... at best.
Hey Science Guru,
You know what I hate about you?
You are rude.
I know, you try and clothe it in statements like the above where you're all sensitive about other people, but you know what, you're about a sensitive as a brick.
You don't care what people think, and you don't care how people feel.
Oh c'mon. Spelling is good. Not playing at punching a God facsimile in a historically Catholic neighborhood on Easter Sunday is also good. This is debatable?
And I accept that your feelings are hurt. Sorry about that. But it's still a good idea to spell and not play blasphemy games on Easter Sunday in a Latino neighborhood. I could spend another 1,000 words saying it very elaborately, but the gist would be the same.
If you are pointing out spelling or grammar issues to help someone be better understood, that is one thing, but do you really think anyone misunderstood Kyle? If not, then why point it out? Especially when it was an obvious quickly fingered typo and not a misspelling at all (do you really believe that Kyle thinks it is actually spelled "chossen"?). Why point something like that out at all?
Becase you wanted to put Kyle (and the rest of us) Down.
Can you give me any other good reason?
And as for the comment about the Catholic Neighborhood, I could also get into reasons why many religions might not deserve such sensitivity, especially on Easter... but in fact I think that that particular comment would have been worthwhile had it not been for the fact that, with your other comments in context it, too, was not meant as a put down of our activities as well.
Admit it. You get off on putting people down. You get off on putting us down. it is what keeps you warm at night.
Either care about people's feelings when you talk to them or shut up.
Spelling is good, in so far as it facilitates communication.
Picking on a dyslexic for a minor spelling error, on the other hand, is pathetic.
(But then, so is obsessively reading a website you hate in order to stalk someone you neither like nor respect.)
Oy. Well I guess you're really dying for that 1,000 words. Here ya go. Am I the one who festoons threads with BIG RED X's because I begrudge some poor person a few utterly meaningless points for not following some utterly obscure tasking rule? That would be you guys. I'm just pointing out some other kinds of rules: like the language we all speak and not abusing other people's religions on their sacred days so you can feel clever. I believe in those rules and consider them as important as say : no retroactive tasking.
You would say that you don't X people to put them down, but to challenge them to do better. Okay, you're challenged to do better. Resubmit when you mess up or stop yer whining. Would you give two seconds to someone who responded to an X by telling you how mean you all are?
And let's not pretend that Punch God for Cheesecake was brought up as a political statement on the Catholic Church. That's a little much. Little girls in white dresses relaxing with their families in the park after church are not the right targets for it anyhow. Right?
I believe the self-diagnosis was drunkenness, not dyslexia, but perhaps you know more than I do.
And spare me the paranoid delusions. Public is public. You wanna perform, there's always the risk somebody won't think it's very good. It's just conversation. I have some tasking fundamentalism in me, too. Don't we all?
No one was talking abut red X's etc. We were talking about you picking at individuals because you get off on putting them down. Do you deny this? I don't see how you can since i can't see any other reason for putting down Kyle with your spelling comments.
As for the comment on being careful in Delores Park, like I said, the comment on its own was well founded. The problem was that in context of your many other put down comments it comes across as potentially another put down (I said as much in my last note... I don't know why I have to repeat). Potentially good comment but your past precedes you.
Those were the points. Can you talk to them instead of the other bullshit?
Oh, and you said, "Would you give two seconds to someone who responded to an X by telling you how mean you all are?" Yes, yes I would and have. I've done better. I've done whatever I could to encourage new players whose tasking was being criticized harshly by others. I've convinced others to be more careful in their criticism of new players. I've defended players whose praxis was in danger of the big red X, asking for more time for them to add to their completions.
Even with you I have tried to treat you like a real human being, invited you in friendship to really join SF0 instead of just haunting and trolling and spreading your downers to everyone. As I recall, when I virtually held out my hand in friendship, you smacked it away, not caring how I or anyone felt. Which brings us back to basics once again.
You are rude.
You don't care what anyone thinks.
You don't care how anyone feels.
And you get off on letting them know that in whatever hurtful way you can.
I pity you.
Scienceguru,
I am eagerly looking forward to the day when you decide to grace us with your own version of one of our humble tasks. I've looked at your track record of votes, and I agree with your idea of vote-worthy-ness. Sometimes you make some solid points in your comments, but I wish you could find a way to critique that felt a little more constructive.
I'm bummed that you've chosen to introduce yourself to the population here in the way that you have, but what bums me out more is that you're participating in this lopsided way. Show us what you're talking about instead of picking apart what we're already doing.
Give us an example!
How about a player photo, at the very least?
Cheers,
anna one
A few things. Looks like Kyle actually is dyslexic. Which is a hard condition to live with so congrats on making it on to college. I believe in spell-checkers - it's more kind to your audience, but that is a real issue. The blasphemy point still stands.
I suppose a player photo is possible, but it's pretty hard to get a notion of when I would possibly have the time to peruse your tasks, pick one, do it while taking pictures of myself and then post a long explanatory blog with pictures and movies and so on. Just reading for 10 minutes or so a day or posting one or two little comments is about the available window of time. I think there's a reason most of the participants are in high school and college. But we'll see.
Finally, this is a website. It's a communications medium. You're putting things up that anyone can look at. You're putting these things up so other people will look at them. Otherwise you'd just task (or live - taking a long walk is living, not playing a game) without all the documentation.
It's not lopsided to observe something that is put in a position to be observed. You have 63 pages of players and only about 5 of those participate. You have a gag rule for the other 58 pages of folks?
I'll comment if something seems to need a comment, and as Anna noted, I'll vote if I like something. Every once in a while. Cheers to you too.
I know why Scienceguru doesn't want to post anything, she's afraid of el rojo X de muerte.
Seriously though, you try to take the fun out of everything. It's stupid. You have no idea what the game is about.
Sigh....
I thought we had this conversation before people.
The troll? Do not feed it. Thank you.
I agree with a lot of what scienceguru says. Almost everything actually. Although I have far less respect for religion or religious neighborhoods or trying not to offend the religious, but scienceguru thinks it's wrong and that's his viewpoint which is just as valid as thinking tasking retroactively is lame or broccoli is gross or robots taking over the world is to be feared or stealing the Sutro tower (or a moustache) is evil or being against people working on the South Pole.
Sure he's a bit impolite but I have a feeling that a lot of his comments have had a wry smile to them and as we all know, humor is very hard to read on the interwebs. I think his demeanor is just one of those things we have to accept just like craptasking is accepted from n00bs. I know that if everything that I wrote or every criticism that I gave saw the entire community jump down my throat and ridicule me the way we have with scienceguru, I would have left a long time ago. And scienceguru is still here, so I give him the benefit of the doubt. I choose to see him as one of us. And give him the slack that joining this community entails. Whether he tasks or not. He's here and he's participating in his own way. I mean he's not Rubin after all.
I suppose a player photo is possible, but it's pretty hard to get a notion of when I would possibly have the time to peruse your tasks, pick one, do it while taking pictures of myself and then post a long explanatory blog with pictures and movies and so on. Just reading for 10 minutes or so a day or posting one or two little comments is about the available window of time.
Just reading for 10 minutes or so a day
-You can write a task up in 10 minutes.
-I believe you're on for more than 10 minutes at a day, here's some examples:
March 23rd comments:
March 23rd, 2008 12:40 AM
March 23rd, 2008 12:56 AM
March 23rd, 2008 10:42 AM
March 23rd, 2008 11:04 AM
March 23rd, 2008 11:50 AM
March 23rd, 2008 11:58 AM
March 23rd, 2008 9:47 PM
Otherwise, I find your comments entertaining, and they provide a different perspective on things. Keep it up!
Many more than 5 players are active, not everyone wants to get involved and spark conflict.
I however have no such qualms, I can see your point about religious people being offended, but think about it. How likely is it that Kyle and the rest of the participants actually find 'god' and punch it to relive it of it's cheesecakey possessions?
As for not having the time to add a player photo, it takes hardly any time at all. I mean you're automatically signed up to it when you join! I'd be willing to bet if you took time out of what I'm sure is a busy schedule to find a task that genuinely interests you (which you would) and to go out there and complete it in a novel and interesting way, that you would enjoy it, and finally grasp the reasons behind this community.
Don't knock it 'till you've tried it.
HAHAHAHA! There were so many little girls in their Sunday best in the park yesterday... also hundreds of Easter bunnies - also in makeup. Even a priest made it to the movable dance party!
Yeah, that's them. Good old catholics.
The on-going gentrification of the Mission is so lousy. Such a bummer. Sad when people are so clueless about what they've destroyed. I love the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, but that was a terrible call they made. A movable dance party in Dolores Park on Easter Sunday is spitting on a vanishing community. Not cool at all. Typical white people arrogance.
Well, Lincoln, there's another thing we agree on. I'm not Rubin. After all :>
Actor: If we're going to bandy around SCIENCE in big letters, probably good to know that a statistical study usually involves more than one day, lol. It'll average out to exactly what I said it was.
Adam: The point was 5 pages of players that were active. And 55+ pages that were not. I think that ratio works out to about 7%. Not a stirring retention level. Looks like nobody else devotes much time to this, either.
See, now that's the thing, SG. You make such a wonderful post like the one above where you are actually discussing things in a smart, articulate, and non-agressive/non-insulting way, and I think, "Hey, there's hope! There's a real person in there after all."
Then you have to ruin it with that last line which smacks of so much "I'm better than you" arrogance it isn't funny. Don't you see the difference?
I wouldn't spend so much time talking at you like this if I didn't see the human interest down beneath the troll clothing. Why do you continually have to put yourself above those whom you are addressing here?
Kyle!
I just wanted to thank you for being cause for a great afternoon and evening with people I love. Whether we are making Lowteck wince in his God shirt before he'll give us cheesecake or I'm kissing AnnaOne and Loki over drinks, or we're watching Shalaco's "Sea Change" Cocktail Fiasco (God bless you for helping him out on that one), it was just a lovely lovely time!
Thanks!
Lookie, it's a fact that you got 5 pages of active players and something like 60 pages of inactive ones. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to draw the obvious conclusion. It's called voting with your feet.
And why are you telling all these people who you kissed?
I'm not disagreeing that there is a point to your note about players. I'd love to talk about it. I actually have a great deal to say about it, and it is not all positive to the way the current SF0 community works. But that's not what I was challenging you on.
It was just the last sentence that turned me off, that made me feel like you are saying, "see, they didn't want to waste their time with this nonsense... why are you?"
Which is a pretty good paraphrase of things you've said about all of us in the past. Again, I keep referring to the context of previous comments you made... I do that because that context is important in how your current comments are perceived.
And it is frustrating because why I ask you questions about style... how you make people feel by HOW you say something, you keep coming back with WHAT you said. That's not what I'm arguing here. WHAT you were talking about is great. Saying it in a way that lords you over the person you are taking to, that's what's sticking in my craw. Can you see any of that, or is what you are saying hiding how you're saying it even from you?
Lastly, why am I telling all these people who I kissed?
a) it is fun, and
b) there are pictures, which are bound to get out very, very soon.
Not necessarily about the pictures coming out soon. As I recall Dax has lots of incriminating photos of us all at the New Era party that haven't seen the light of day yet.
1) JTony I love you for obvious reasons.
2) I am actually really sad I was not able to attend this event.
4th-ed-ed
you guys have no idea how much I love you all, tasking with you all is so much better when you do it with friends.
I wish that Jesus would have really punched Lowtek I would have given him 2 slices of cake if he had
Every trip up north to the city is amazing, I look forward to one day transferring to SFSU USF or UC Berkley so I can finish this grulling trek that is college and so I can spend time with all of you
Telling my priest and my almost nun girlfriend about the whole punching God for cheesecake thing is now one of the most priceless moments I've had at church.
I loved that we did this on your anniversary, Kyle. That was super.
Wow. All I can say is ....
Who's gonna send me the funding?
Ive got £30!
At £30 a week, it'll only be six months... Shall we start planning another massive August task?
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Hey! You scared me Lowteck!
Ah well I spend more than £30 a week as it is.
As you'll see when I've finnished my "The Archive of _______" task.
I might go to San Fran in Uni if I can gather up the cash.
Search SF0 in google and you get this...
SF0
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700 pounds to fly to SFO!!!! what the hell....more like 300
PEOPLE, PEOPLE.
calm down about the airfare. it will be possible! ms. scarlett kindly informs me that at the end of this very month, there is a new law going into effect - for some reason it will be known as the open skies agreement. now i know this sounds like an orwellian bushism... but i've already seen the aerlingus fares with my own eyes. adam, did you catch the ten-pound-offer?
apparently it will help east coasters who want to get to birmingham, and minneapoleans who want to make it out to, oh i don't know, brussels.
I don't have membership to the NY Times but I know what your'e talking about.
I completely forgot about it.
Yay, low-cost air-fares for me.
Boo! low-cost air-fares for everyone.
God being enviromentally aware is hard work.
Excuse me, mister scienceguru, but we've been monitoring your activities for a while, and we'd like to submit that your comments are a lot of talk without a lot of walk.
Something we would know about.
Now, son, we're suggesting that you make your commentary a little more eh, constructive, or we'll be submitting that this collaborative production game isn't big enough for the the both of us. Understood, son?
Here is a reasonable, although not necessarily complete list of Kyle Hamilton pretired tasks.
And, I vote for Punch God for Cheesecake.
To those of you considering how to vote, I'd like to point out that if you vote for Punch God for Cheesecake, there's a significant chance you'll receive free* cheesecake. Who doesn't like cheesecake? What's more, who want to be the person who prevented their friends from receiving cheesecake?
* Offer excludes the price of your soul, and (as he is obviously responsible for any and all unethical and or sinful acts that occur as a result of this event) Kyle's soul.